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Biz. there are 15 accusers of trump in a sexual assault. there are ten women who accused him of inappropriate sexual contact. when this story landed in the "new york times," it was in the book section. is that something that should surprise us or outrage us, or what did you think about that? >> i think we should all be terribly outraged that it landed in the book section as if it's just a review of another story of a sitting president of the united states accused of rape. >> are you surprised that her fame and notoriety -- the other women, people don't know who those are, or maybe if you watch...

Bring juanita broaddrick and other women who had accused president bill clinton of, you know, inappropriate sexual conduct. juanita broaddrick. i was an editor at "the washington post" when we published the first national newspaper story about her allegations about the president. and, you know, again, this was taken seriously. president clinton was impeached by congress. and, you know, here we have a situation where, you know, the executive editor of "the new york times" has said tonight he made a mistake, he's sorry, they covered this allegation in the book section of "the new york times." >>...

That we are sort of nullified from all of it. it's almost as though it's an atrocity almost every single day, and i think she's right. i think people tend to forget about it. people give him a lot of leeway. i found it to be very disconcerting that a lot of major newspapers did not even cover this in the same way that they did allegations of biden touching a woman on her shoulder or hillary clinton's emails. for example, "the new york times" covered this story in their book section rather than on the very front page. >> also to, you know, this isn't, well, he was inappropriate with me or he ma...

Cover this in the same way that they did allegations of biden touching a woman on her shoulder or hillary clinton's emails. frexz, "the new york times" covered this story in their book section rather than on the very front page. >> also to, you know, this isn't, well, he was inappropriate with me or he made a pass at me. this is something that's completely different. this is a whole different -- >> exactly. well, let's make this clear. this is rape. what she alleges happened to her -- >> she doesn't like to use that term. >> i know. but the law says that what happened to her is rape. the law r...

A celebrity by the time that they encountered each other in that department store, so actually she was his type. >> and two, the other interesting thing that's happened about this, "the new york times," your competitor has basically come out and said, you know, we didn't handle this story the right away. we put this information on the book section on friday when there is an allegation of rape against the president of the united states, maybe this needs to be treated as a news story, and it was really only after your interview yesterday with e. jean carroll that i think this picked up the momen...