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Billion a year but not helping us with our border because they have strong laws and we have horrible laws. we have horrible border laws. they could solve our border problem, if they wanted. but they don't want to. when they want to, then i'll be happy. i think we have a good chance of doing some great trade deals. and we'll make america great again, right? that's what we're doing. >> let's chat about that. with me finance experts. catherine, to you first. i love them, they take advantage of us but i love them. >> it's a very strange way to show love to our allies. we are imposing allies -- act...

Look, the american worker agrees with me. obviously the stock market agrees because when you look at health insurance going on with the stocks, they're starting to see -- if you take the european union and you see the kind of tariff they charge and then we don't, that's called not fair trade. i want fair trade. i like free trade but i want fair trade. at a minimum i want fair trade. and we're going to have it for our workers and for our company. and you know what, the other side understands it. to be honest with you, they cannot believe that they've gotten away with this for so many decades. >...

They are starting to see i'm right. but if you take the european union and you see the kind of tariff they charge, and then we don't, that's called not fair trade. i want fair trade. i like free trade. but i want fair trade. at a minimum, i want fair trade. and we are going to have it for our workers and for our companies. you know what, the other side understands it. to be honest with you, they cannot believe that they have gotten away with this for so many decades. >> canada and the uk are some of your closest allies. they are complaining loud and long about these tariffs. what do you say to...

Allow all these people to come through central america to their country and in some cases encourage them to keep going and cross the border. instructed them about the best ways to seek asylum, does not seem right you given the fact that mexico turns back tens of thousands of people and has a very strict border laws? >> like you say, mexico is working on enforcing its immigration law on the south border of its border. it's not a week, unprotected border. immigrants are very aware of the dangers they face and still, they choose to risk their lives for their families. >> martha: you're confident ...

Working out how many will be deployed. we don't know how many, for how long or how much it will cost. we don't know whether they will be armed and what they will do. she says the national guard will help free up border patrol agents. >> we would be looking for them to do that. they help provide medical care for those that we do interdict. they help us do maintenance. a lot of mechanics to use in that terrain. so it's a lot of support functions that will free up the border patrol to do what they do best, which is enforce border laws. >> support functions. the idea is they have not talked to the...