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>> reporter: millions of ukrainians were killed as hitler's army overran what was then the ukrainian part of the soviet union, nearly the entire jewish population "therethere w out. but german also has hard economic reasons for going soft on russia. its dependence on russian gas and the nord stream 2 pipeline. while berlin recently claimed the pipeline was purely an economic project, at least now the government says a russian invasion of ukraine would have an impact. >> translator: if there is renewed congress, we have the full bandwidth of measures, including nord stream 2. >> reporter: the u...

That the europeans are not united on tough measures dealing with the sanctions. what am i talking about? the germans sending mixed signals stopping the in order stream 2. france and germany unwilling to talk to european counterparts about what are the specific tough sanctions you are talking about. lay that out for us. they refuse to do it. the other back drop is we know that if the european nations begin to suffer economically as a result of the sanctions, they will likely back off on the sanctions. so putin already knows all of that. and then we add this. match to the fire. >> harris: excuse...

Economic assistance. what they need and are asking for is not only weaponry but a really strong, united show of unity among the nato allies about exactly what they would do and not let president putin use some of these economic issues within europe, particularly the energy issue, as a wedge to drive divisions between the u.s. and its nato allies that make it more easy for russia to justify its own incursion into ukraine if putin goes down that choice. for example on the in order stream 2 pipeline, jake sullivan, the national security adviser, made very clear as far as the u.s. is concerned, if...

Existential crisis going on in the administration where you have some folks that say, oh, we can just go back to the old way and some folks like u.s. trade representative katheryn thai that say, no, we need new rules. we have to come up with new ways to get access and also protect u.s. jobs and labor. >> i want to talk about what's happening in the europe, iran and russia. a lot of people ask me, why does this matter for americans. you call this and say ukraine is potentially a european vietnam. >> yes. >> president biden has made it clear if russia invades ukraine, there will be no in order s...

Wanted to hold in reserve the harsher sanks that will be rolled out if russian aggressions continues and russia seizes more ukrainian territory, which seems likely. the big move was the german decision to hold certification on the in order stream two pipeline, a connection between russia and europe. i think that was a signal that the sanctions may be hitting harder than the russians intended. >> jeff, there is an editorial board op ed piece in the "wall street journal" i want to read from. it says mr. putin responds only to strength and the west suspect showing enough. all financial institutio...