existential crisis going on in the administration where you have some folks that say, oh, we can just go back to the old way and some folks like u.s. trade representative katheryn thai that say, no, we need new rules. we have to come up with new ways to get access and also protect u.s. jobs and labor. >> i want to talk about what's happening in the europe, iran and russia. a lot of people ask me, why does this matter for americans. you call this and say ukraine is potentially a european vietnam. >> yes. >> president biden has made it clear if russia invades ukraine, there will be no in order stream 2 pipeline. this is a potential point of leverage to avoid. can he make that happen if the germans aren't fully on board here? draw this out for us. >> yeah, absolutely. so the big fight here is about some really bad decisions, frankly, that europe made to i think import more of its energy from russia. russia is a country that has