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Chose to violate that, so even if you made an agreement with russia, there's no guarantee that it would abide by it, but, you know, look, there are multiple fronts right now and we're all seeing just part of it, right? we're seeing part of the information war, the u.s. has been unusually aggressive in releasing, almost in realtime its intelligence, clearly designed to box putin in or head off from taking actions. >> actually, i wanted to ask you about that. i wanted to ask you about that approach, because it does seem clear that the biden administration and allies, quite frankly, are taking a ...

Military action. is russia setting the stage for imminent invasion, do you think? >> we don't know. and that's the really interesting question. the u.s. strategy has been a fascinating one. i've never seen it before, brianna. which is they are trying to reveal each piece of intelligence. sometimes on the same day that they are getting it, in an effort to box putin in by saying we know your plans, we're listening to your military, we're onto you. and hoping that by blowing each of these operations by making public statements about them, they then force putin to change course. now, of course wha...

Pretty sound calculation on putin's part. >> it's hard to know. my suspicion is that the president is -- president putin is probably concluding that he should simply take the country in bites, that doing one over all invasion is likely to cause huge trouble for him. bring in those sanctions. whereas if he manages to do this in pieces, he can test it each way along the way how well it's going. >> as each president has come through, he has taken bites, pretty much. we talked about what's going on in eastern ukraine. there's also new rhetoric from officials, this vague warning of