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The last election, where many people blamed the dnc for boxing out bernie sanders. are you concerned about that type of charge? >> i don't like to hear democrats making these charges. i think the dnc has done a good job putting this is debates together. i was the chairman who started these debates. my feeling was to give everybody an opportunity to get out there, to lay their plans out. it was a way to be much more exclusive. what the party is saying, with 25 candidates, at some point you've got to show some strength. we can't continue to have several dozen candidates. we have to beget to form...

Conclusive about her exploration of running for president. why? >> let's do elizabeth warren first. i think she's making sure she's keeping her space open. she's boxing out, to use a basketball analogy. she's making sure there's enough space here for her. klobuchar interesting. she distinguished herself not by being a yelling, screaming partisan, but by being a thoughtful, persistent inquisitor. does the democratic party want that? >> imagine that? thoughtful. >> just like chris cillizza. thank you very much, chris cillizza. >> thank you. >> great to talk to you. okay, late-night laughs next...

She's in the pfeiffer's seat. >> people are either positioning themselves already for a role in her government or acting to lock in pentagons they have with either her or the few people she would give authority to hire for her. why does it feel like the train has already left the station? what does this mean for the other side? if the republicans are also looking for jobs in 2016 and need to win to get those jobs, if they see her on the move already, does that mean they're more likely to push a candidate with a good chance of boxing her out in the center? in other words, new jersey governor ch...

Were you exposed to that a lot? i wondered how you responded to that. obviously, no one knew about your situation. did it go off your shoulders because you hear it all the time? >> there is an element -- i don't think how clearly the language of homophobia is the language of sports. even when it's the words we cannot publish, the language around women, the language around gay people is always derisive. for me personally i always felt it was a death by 1,000 cuts. at the end of the day i wondered why i felt so exhausted after practice. i was in great shape. it wasn't the fact that practice had ...

Ready to make their kick. why suddenly does it feel like she's in the driver's seat? well, people are either positioning themselves already for a role in hillary's government or acting to lock in positions they have with either her or the few people she would give authority to hire for her. why does it feel like the train has already left the station? what does this mean for the other side? if the republicans are also looking for jobs in 2016 and need to win to get those jobs, if they see her on the move already, does that mean they're more likely to push a candidate who actually has a good ch...