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Ukraine or belarus to respond to that. i've been thinking about this quite a bit and i think despite some discussions with russians that our best option would be a limited cyber attack of some kind strong enough the russians would get the message and pay the price but not so strong for us to reveal our tactics, and techniques and procedures because every time you do a cyber attack you giveaway bread crumps and they can trace how you did it. we have used the sanctions we can use, and doing all of the military we're willing to use, and only thing left is an enormous cyber capability and this may...

>> now peta is trying to shame people out of serving turkey. they issued this heart warming tweets. keep your fists out of bird's butts: equating eating a turkey of a sexual act is way off the grid here. we just use this to get people to stop eating turkey. this is below the belt. >> laura: i am walking away from that entire discussion. i am think of stuffing. are they against stuffing too if will they give us bread crumbs. we will beg for bread crumps in the biden campaign? >> he actually pardoned some thanksgiving turkey. with biden it's hard to separate