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You donate more to charity because you are from a wealthy family. and he basically said i am the gift. i am running for president to do the most good. and bernie sanders wants to control every industry, so that the little guy has to bake them for whatever they need. he is the guy that said that bread lines in nicaragua was a good state. he is not standing in those lines. >> jesse: that is not true, juan, that was a joke. >> juan: i listen to you too much. i'm so curious, because it seems to me when i look at the people who are backing donald trump, the big donors on top. >> martha: they are no...

And not constantly trying to defend themselves. you talk about this intergenerational divide, it's very real. 2020 is the first time there will be more young voters by 12 million people than baby boomers. they're very upset. rightly so. they are inheriting an economy and environment they feel they cannot access. the best way to crystalize it is the fact you had federal employees in middle class jobs in bread lines during the first time. >> during the government -- >> during the government shutdown in over a century. that is not small. >> i think the economy is the issue. and attacking free mar...

Balance sheet, that has fallen quite a bit. so the banking system is healthier but the country as a whole has a lot of public sector debt and households still have debt. and many companies as well. so they are not well placed to cope with a sudden rise in interest rates. that is one reason the fed is sitting on its hands. but there again, as we go forward, if the economy slows, if that debt amount keeps rising, it is a challenge because global growth is also slowing down. >> it is a lot healthier. but we also know the banking sector is a lot less regulated already. maria, from a political stan...

Condemning maduro and condemning socialism and talk about why socialism there collapsed because his supporters for many, many years and the left side of the democratic party now doesn't want to condemn maduro. they still believe in that socialist system. as f. they condemn it, it means that the things that they believe in has failed. that's why you are not hearing him talking about that. griff: that's right. the bread lines bernie nickname. you talk about bernie sanders in 2016 started talking about redistributing wealth and taxing the rich there was an audience for that this is an entirely di...

That was not an accident. 2020 should be in any normal dynamic a referendum on president trump's first term. that's really the sweet spot the democrats are looking for. here, you have sanders getting in, self-described socialist, and if this race becomes and bernie frankly helps make it this way, if this race becomes referendum not on president trump's first few years in office, but instead freedom and democracy on one side and socialism on the other, that's a pretty good path for the president to go through to get reelected. i think that's the biggest challenge. eric: you can see that happeni...