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Combatting far right and white supremacist terrorism, you're taking your career in your hands, and you might lose your job that had a years' long chilling effect. combined with the fact that this white house saw domestic terrorism as a very, very low priority if a priority at all for quite some time. we had dhs just not responding to domestic terrorism with a level of seriousness that advocates were demanding. >> and that's not just sort of a political statement. one can say look, betsy, you got to take this seriously, this domestic terrorism thing. this is in infrastructure. it's the way thin...

Sometimes you want to see action outside the realm of just counting on the president for anything. "the washington post" story suggests there is a new ground swell support for the some of these. they feel new momentum to get something done. but is that going to be enough? this new momentum they feel? >> well, i think that the real challenge here is -- and april i'm fwlad you brought up the nra. the nra is going through some challenging times. to me it seems like if there was ever an opportunity to shake free republican support that the death hold that nra has on members of congress, you would ...

They come here to make a better life for themselves. ken cuccinelli was saying people who come in the past have been aristocrats and been wealthy and been able to take care of themselves and provide for the public good as soon as they got here. that's not the history we've heard. we've heard a number of these politicians say when my grand pa parents came with 2 cents in their pocket, they worked. >> donald trump's grandfather came here. >> now there seems to be a move to try to revise american history and say the public charge issue is something that emma lazarus was thinking about when she wr...

A restrained national defense, paying down the debt and entitlement reform, strong ties with nato, free trade, human immigration policy that looks to the future and leaders that aren't scared of the future but actually are ready to go head first into the future and dare the world to get into the united states way economically, i think that 90% number drops considerably if you have that type of conservative jump into the race. it's why i think the 90% is a false positive. >> yeah, i think you have that number drop especially if the economy starts to taper off and you're seeing strong signs that...