Sport and desegregation happened, we closed all those big pools. my olympics at astoria pool, they put the 50-meter pool in. where are you going to learn to swim? get that option? >> there is a great irony to this discussion, because john carlos' dream was to be an olympic swimmer and he was unable to do some of. >> because you didn't have the resources available in your community? >> no, because of the color of my skin it wasn't resources. my dad said where would you train, son. you can't join the clubs, you can't swim in the public pools, you can't go to the ocean. where would you train? you...