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Of atrocities and the kind of things we saw back in the 90s when the taliban did have brief control of the country. and the pictures and the stories that will emanate in the weeks and months to come will be a humanitarian crisis in the making. but the calculation is what you said, joe, the american people are tired of it, they don t want to be there anymore, they don t think we have to be there anymore. it s not our country. it s up to the afghans to take care of themselves, we did what we could. it s time to get out. admiral, talking about the united states of america and our place in the world. we re not aruba or luxenburg. we can t wash our hands of a situation because we grow tired or bored of it, even if stupid people are writing articles in newspapers or talking about the forever war as if we had 150,000 ....