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Security risk to americans and limited in time. i think it would survive both prongs of strict scrutiny. the administration is in a very strong position on the merits. >> could i make a brief point on standing because lawyers love to talk about standing but moat people don't know what they're talking about. it's the right to bring a case in a united states courtroom. i think what has the surprised all the lawyers who have looked at this decision is that what the court said here is that the state of washington, because it brings students into its universities, brings customers into its restaura...

Fillmore presented himself but that we've seen in sort of the modern political era. >> speaking of the modern political era -- i was going to say, jean, we've got the -- the seal is on the podium now. we have got the pel prompters. i see the travel pool is in the room. at any moment we might be interrupting, but jean go ahead. >> just a brief point. there has been a lot of action, that is very true. and there have been a lot of pictures and a lot of headlines, but so far not very much has actually change that is the harder part that lies ahead. most of these events have been photo ops where he...

Keep these things secret, to keep them sealed, this one line that has just blown up so big in this entire case, he said it would cause embarrassment and the judge had a pretty pointed answer to that. >> yes, he did. >> what was that, mel? >> i don't even remember -- well, i think he's already -- how could it possibly be even more embarrassing? >> the cat is out of the bag. >> you're as embarrassed as could possibly be. what more damage could be done? >> i'll tell you what more damage could be done. that one line that we're all kind of blowing up and highlighting and focusing on "corroborates t...

Once somebody gets a gun legally, there's absolutely no mechanism to be able to take a gun away. you read about all these stories. forget about mass murder. what about domestic violence? people who commit acts of violence every day? there's no mechanism for the police or for the public or for a mental health professional to basically say we need to take a look at this individual, just like we might yank somebody's driver's license for acting recklessly, right? >> and one other brief point -- >> due process is not a problem here. we suspend your right to get a gun. you can show up at a hearing ...

They just outsourced this banking function. that's where it's going. the banking can -- >> one brief point -- >> i'm sucking the point is to deter putin. and to have in your quiver a lot of options that he and the rich shan establishment are aware of. not to deploy it but a range of options depending on what he does? >> it's interesting the point is to deter putin. another possible point is to convince the oligarchs to turn against him. don't see any level of these sanctions accomplishing that. it's annoying to have a travel ban but the immediate report suggests the oligarchs have doubled down...