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has an audio recording of former president trump in 2021 seemingly admitting, again, on tape, that he took a classified document with him when he left the white house, a classified document allegedly detailing plans of how the u.s. could attack iran. that document. well tonight, we have new reporting that trump s lawyers do not know where the document is. they are unable to find the war plans trump may have been casually waving around at his new jersey golf club two years ago. everybody check your golf carts, ask your caddies! anyone see stray plans for war in iran? no. we are going to talk about that a little bit later tonight. but we also have some big news in one of the other big trump investigations. it came out of fulton county, georgia where district attorney fani willis is investigating trump s effort to overturn the 2020 election results. let me back up first. do you remember this story from february about how trump s campaign hired a team of researchers to prov ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:27:00

Missing document that nobody seems to know exactly what it is or where it is? not as much as you might expect, alex. what i think is important and you spoke about it in the introduction, is the acknowledgment by mr. trump on a recording that he understood the classification system that there were limits on what he could do post presidency and that he couldn t share information because he wasn t able any longer to declassify this information. who would be great for the government to get the document, if it s out there floating around, they certainly wanted back for national security purposes. having it could help cooperate other parts of the case. it would also indicate that there are additional documents, not yet returned or found by the fbi. but i think the really important thing is that reporting. you know, we talk about this document and it leads one to focus on the fact, perhaps, that this document we re talking about is not in mar-a-lago. this is a document that potentially tr ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:04:00

So dead people voted, and i think the number is close to 5000 people. and they went to obituaries. they went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number, and a minimum is close to about 5000 voters. beyond that claim being bonkers, it is also incredibly specific. and trump should ve known at the time that it was wrong. one of the groups that trump campaign hired to look into the fraud claims, the berkeley research group, they had already debunked this. they found that they were at maximum 23 ballots that may have been cast in the name of a dead person in georgia. 23. and they told trump himself before his call with raffensperger. quote, senior officials from the berkeley research group briefed trump, then chief of staff mark meadows and others on the findings in the december 2020 conference call. trump knew! he knew, or at least he was told in no uncertain terms that there was no fraud. no thousands or even hundreds ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:07:00

Georgia state legislature to declare trump the winner of the 2020 election. she s looking at the fake electors scheme. and she is looking at the trump campaign s potential involvement in the unauthorized breach of election equipment in coffee county, georgia. and all of these efforts by trump and his campaign are a lot harder to excuse legally when you look at the actual evidence compiled by trump s own consultants. trump s campaign had been told in december of 2020, by their own researchers, that there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud in any of the states they looked at. so their justification for pressuring the georgia state legislature, trump s justification for convening the asking his campaign somehow to convene fake electors, their justification for everything and coffee county, trump s justification for exactly what he was trying to do on a call with raffensperger, all of that gets a lot harder for them to hide behind. joining us now are former u. s. attorneys, barbar ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:05:00

Of dead voters. so you can see why the d. a., fani willis, would want to talk to the people who gave the trump campaign that report. you can see why she might want their testimony. this was trump himself being told by his own researchers with multiple potential corroberating witnesses on the call, that his fraud claims about georgia were false. and the reason that is so important is because the defense being made by trump s allies right now, including by his former january 6th lawyer tim parlatore, to my colleague ari melber this evening tonight, is that prosecutors must be able to prove that trump knew his election fraud claims were false at the time that he was making them. you don t think it s heading towards an indictment of donald ....

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