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Very exciting to be here. But im trying to understand what has happened to this land of yours, because when you arrived here, this was an intensively farmed land, wasnt it . It was. My husband, charlie, inherited it from his grandparents when he was in his early 20s, and this was back in the 1980s. And every inch of the land was ploughed, it was producing arable crops and dairy. And we fully expected to be farmers for the rest of our lives. Mm. 17 years on, we were £1. 5 million in debt, tearing our hair out and realised that, you know, this is very marginal land. Were walking on 320 metres o...

ah, well, it's actually still, for me, very exciting to be here. but i'm trying to understand what has happened to this land of yours, because when you arrived here, this was an intensively farmed land, wasn't it? it was. my husband, charlie, inherited it from his grandparents when he was in his early 20s, and this was back in the 1980s. and every inch of the land was ploughed, it was producing arable crops and dairy. and we fully expected to be farmers for the rest of our lives. mm. 17 years on, we were £1.5 million in debt, tearing our hair out, and realised that, you know, this i...

It's considered good for nothing. but it's one of the most biodiverse habitats we have. thorny scrub is just amazing for wildlife. i know you had cattle as part of your intensive farming. you've kept some cattle. not the dairy cows we had, because they probably wouldn't be able to survive out here now. they're such a modern breed. so what we've chosen is old english longhorns — we might see some of them — but they're amazing. and they look very much like their extinct ancestor, the aurochs, with these great sweeping horns. we needed to have an old breed that could sort of remember, as it w...