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Very exciting to be here. But im trying to understand what has happened to this land of yours, because when you arrived here, this was an intensively farmed land, wasnt it . It was. My husband, charlie, inherited it from his grandparents when he was in his early 20s, and this was back in the 1980s. And every inch of the land was ploughed, it was producing arable crops and dairy. And we fully expected to be farmers for the rest of our lives. Mm. 17 years on, we were £1. 5 million in debt, tearing our hair out and realised that, you know, this is very marginal land. Were walking on 320 metres o...

ah, well, it's actually still, for me, very exciting to be here. but i'm trying to understand what has happened to this land of yours, because when you arrived here, this was an intensively farmed land, wasn't it? it was. my husband, charlie, inherited it from his grandparents when he was in his early 20s, and this was back in the 1980s. and every inch of the land was ploughed, it was producing arable crops and dairy. and we fully expected to be farmers for the rest of our lives. mm. 17 years on, we were £1.5 million in debt, tearing our hair out, and realised that, you know, this i...

It's notjust people who have thousands of hectares that rewilding can affect. rewilding really is on a spectrum. so you have the wildest lands, the yellowstone national parks at one end, where you don't need so much intervention. you have the knepp in the middle. but you can also rewild your garden, your window box, your roadside verges. all of us have a part to play in restoring nature across the landscape, and we have to connect, too. you've just written a new book, a sort of practical guide to rewilding. it's upset some people because your message is that everybody sort of has a responsibil...

And rootle and disturb the soil creates niches for other life. the way their dung and their urine actually infiltrates the ground, thanks to dung beetles and all the other microbes that are helping — the microbiotic species that are helping to bring those nutrients back into the soil is restoring the soil, which also helps the soil store carbon. so they're part of the whole nutrient carbon cycle. you can't divorce large herbivores from the nutrient system. do you eat meat? i do, but i'm very careful about the meat that i eat. i eat much less meat than i ever used to. i think we've all got to...

It's considered good for nothing. but it's one of the most biodiverse habitats we have. thorny scrub is just amazing for wildlife. i know you had cattle as part of your intensive farming. you've kept some cattle. not the dairy cows we had, because they probably wouldn't be able to survive out here now. they're such a modern breed. so what we've chosen is old english longhorns — we might see some of them — but they're amazing. and they look very much like their extinct ancestor, the aurochs, with these great sweeping horns. we needed to have an old breed that could sort of remember, as it w...