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Protect americans. >> nothing's wrong with it. but what's wrong with it is doing it moments after people were plowed down. a stone's throe -- >> when you hear the president say the people in this lottery are not the country's best -- >> look, there's a good argument to get rid of the lottery program. but the -- let's be clear about what trump's agenda is. donald trump, first of all, wants to cut immigration in half overall, regardless of how people come in. secondly, he wants fewer mexicans and muslims. it's obvious if you go back to the campaign, that's the agenda. that and he should be hones...

Let's just game out what could happen. donald trump -- they like disruption. disruption is a good thing for them. let's say disruption. >> disruption and chaos are two different things. >> let's say he fires the attorney general, we can't get orders signs, that competent dies sessions' appointment, now mitch mcconnell has a perfect excuse to invoke the nuclear option because it's a matter of national security. i'm just telling you -- >> ryan go ahead the nuclear option has already been -- i'm sorry, for the supreme court you can, but not a cabinet. >> i do agree with matt, though, this is not ...

You make it very clear by adding to your state constitution or otherwise language that protects every citizen in that state from discrimination. when you can't answer that question fundamentally, that's when you get on the slippery slope and have a real problem with the broader public. >> ryan go ahead. >> sure. that's exactly what this law does. this law protects every citizen in the state of indiana from government discrimination. it says the government cannot coerce anyone's free exercise of religion unless it's doing it in a least restrictive way possible. >> ryan is using the definition -...

Years? i think we have to balance the budget if ten years, but that's going to be hard sledding, isn't it? >> it is. his previous budget, as you know, didn't even do it over a 30-year time horizon. he didn't deal with social security in his last budget. he of course, now, famously dealt with medicare with premium support. and that's the real issue. i spent time on capitol hill this week, joe, and where realms are adamant is they want what you've been talking about. they want some kind of entitlement reform. i don't think that you're going to see ryan go back to premium support, but he's going ...

Again, he'll probably have to wash the stench of romney off of him. the stench of romney. >> yeah. i mean, that -- those are harsh words. and i think a lot of republicans, tea party folks particularly, feel that way. feel like mitt romney has watered down the paul ryan that they have come to love and respect and think of him as very much the standard bearer of the future of the republican party. i think everyone is on the lookout to see ryan go his own way sort of the way that we've seen sarah palin do that. i think that's what everybody is waiting to see, if paul ryan is going to do that. i t...