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Relations office in the white house and madeleine, of course, dr. brzezinski's -- she had history in her veins. a deep, deep appreciation of history and gifts that were extraordinary. gifts for analysis and high politics. had a gift for being a public person. and she had a gift for friendship. and so she was an unusual, unusual person and i think joe's exactly right, that people's histories do frame, do form them and inform their, form their professional lives, but in her it was especially true, i think. because she really did have a deep, deep sense of history and, of course, that sense of hi...

Dad's birthday. unbelievable. you have a really good memory. i w thank you. she's the author of "prague winter" a personal story from 1937 to 1948. this book is amazing. >> speaking of the brzezinski's, you know, it's amazing how much dr. brzezinski's life was shaped by the fact they fled warsaw before the uprising and mrs. brzezinski, of course, had to flee czechoslovakia just like you. you talked about n a debate about colin powell and his view of the world versus your view of the world. how your view was shaped by your childhood. >> there's no question it was. one of the big questions was m...