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ask not what your country ca do for you mr. gorbachev teared down this wall states criminal indictment of former president of the united states good evening and thank you for being with us here tonight i am rachel maddow here at msnbc headquarters in new york along with lawrence o'donnel and joy reid, and nicole wallace, and chris hayes we are going to be joined by more of our closest colleagues over the course of this evenin tonight, as part of the specia coverage we know that you have ever choice in the world tonight as to where to get your news abou this historic event. that make...

Records and tax records, e cetera, so this is something that would happen to anyone. you want to talk about thi what happened -- this would happen to anyone -- >> as the bread and brother of a white collar crimes. >> i would say though, we keep coming, you end up coming back to this philosophical bedroc of what the law is what is the law? what is equal justice under law? this is the betting story of the entire trump era i think when you read this indictment, right, i think either - is defensive it is a bubble case. it is not a slam dunk, i don't think. they are going to have - >> it feel so mu...

Weisselberg and from pecker. >> there's an argument to be made that the district attorne bag has a better prosecution o the facts then the feds do because he alone has the business records crime that is not a federal crime. that is not something that the would be able to bring in th southern district. so, it is tricky if michael cohen was a full an open, total disclosure cooperator in the southern district - still decided not to go forward, i don't get to, but i do understand why we are where we are now with bragg >> can we also make the note that this office, this da' office, prosecute this -...