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Administration, from mccabe to rosenstein to comey, to basically pledge their loyalty to him personally. and not understanding that their loyalty is to the constitution or to the agencies they have served. that has again become one of the key buckets mueller is looking at in his probe. >> ashley, let's turn the corner into this memo, which is likely to be the lead story tomorrow, though predicting that kind of thing these days is fraught. especially with the fbi director now kind of on the record saying, please don't do this. using words like, grave. which gets your attention. why the zeal, wh...

And he's always asking these people who serve in his administration, from mccabe to rosenstein to comey, to basically pledge their loyalty to him personally. and not understanding that their lowellty is to the constitution or to the agencies they have served. that has again become one of the key buckets mueller is looking at in his probe. >> let's turn the corner into this memo which is likely to be the lead story tomorrow, though predicting that kind thing these days is fraught. especially with the fbi director now kind of on the record saying, please don't do this. using words like, grave. w...

People who serve in his administration, from mccabe to rosenstein to comey, to basically pledge their loyalty to him personally. and not understanding that their lowellty is to the constitution or to the agencies they have served. that has again become one of the key buckets mueller is looking at in his probe. >> let's turn the corner into this memo which is likely to be the lead story tomorrow, though predicting that kind thing these days is fraught. especially with the fbi director now kind of on the record saying, please don't do this. using words like, grave. which gets your attention. why...

>> i don't believe it is. >> here to talk about it, all three reporters have been covering this news all day long, the aforementioned michael schmidt, "new york times" washington correspondent and an nbc contributor, and joshua gerber, white house reporter for politico. welcome to you all. mr. schmidt, since it's your conclusion that we start with, fill in the blanks on this story. why were they both talked to when they were talked to? why were they staggered? why one in 2017, one in 2018, and what are the questions in content? >> there are two buckets mueller is looking at, one is the collusi...

Without talking to the president. but what the terms are remains to be seen. >> do you think they're focusing entirely on obstruction if the only subjects they want to talk to the president about are the firing of flynn and the firing of comey? that would suggest they're not interested in talking about, you know, the meeting in trump tower with donald trump jr., et cetera, the meeting with george papadopoulos, et cetera. >> our reports are that the main two buckets mueller has said they want to ask trump about are those two firings and the events that preceded and followed those twoe different...