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>> i will be shocked if there is a government shutdown but that's just me. i would be very surprised. >> look at the time and the energy and the effort that's being spent on this thing when the -- the rules are there is supposed to have been a budge net place october 1 of last year. >> yeah. >> will is no excuse. >> no excuse. they have to just do it and it will be too painful for the american public and you are absolutely right. let's hope they -- have a few hours left. i think they can still do it. i'm hopefully they will. if there is a government shutdown the paychecks may stop coming for u...

Families might have, debt on their credit card with interest rates that have to be contended with. but the first important step to dealing with this issue is getting your regular spending and income in balance so you're no longer adding to the problem. the interest is something we have to deal with. and interest payments are a major portion of our long-term debt problem that we need to address. but -- look, it is not an inc inconsequential deal to propose a budge net targeted areas so the federal government lives within its means in order to be able to continue to invest in the future because ...

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