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Cognitive distance that you might have if there was like a fiscal conservative who is a budget balancer who gets up there. and it's not just obviously i think most americans believe that we should help out the people who are storm ravaged, i think it's going to be infrastructure. you're going to see him helping out a lot of people that are hurting. >> thank you very much. we have a lot more ahead. coming up, the president and the press. just hours into his presidency, donald trump and his team blasting the media for what they call inaccurate reporting. so what can we expect in the white house ...

The other side actually get serious about fixing these problems when they don't even pretend to fix the problems. >> he wasn't serious under president bush. why wasn't he serious when we were funding a war in iraq? why didn't he say america should pay for the war in afghanistan. why didn't he say when we have a top program it needs to be available to folks on main street? he was for the automotive bailout -- >> barack obama -- >> did the -- >> the democrats did not. but i tell you what, we're not walking around talking about a guy who has a career doing something completely different. he has a...

Choice and a substantive argument about the role of government in the future of our country. the ryan pick sort of accelerates that process so it makes it even stronger. but it was there already. and i think that the issue, one of the arguments we're going to have is, is ryan about balancing the budget? he's been passed as a budget balancer. his budget doesn't balance until somewhere after 2030. ryan is about reducing the size of government and cutting taxes. i think at the end of this election, one issue we're going to decide, at least, is does the government need more revenue? yes. in order ...

Hasn't had a budget. and so it's very difficult for democrats to complain how dare the other side actually get serious about fixing these problems when they don't even pretend to fix the problems. >> he wasn't serious under president bush. why wasn't he serious when we were funding a war in iraq? why didn't he say america should pay for the war in afghanistan. why didn't he say when we have a top program it needs to be available to folks on main street? he was for the automotive bailout -- >> barack obama -- >> did the -- >> the democrats did not. but i tell you what, we're not walking around ...

Even before the paul ryan pick, which was a very substantive choice and a substantive argument about the role of government in the future of our country. the ryan pick sort of accelerates that process so it makes it even stronger. but it was there already. and i think that the issue, one of the arguments we're going to have is, is ryan about balancing the budget? he's been passed as a budget balancer. his budget doesn't balance until somewhere after 2030. ryan is about reducing the size of government and cutting taxes. i think at the end of this election, one issue we're going to decide, at le...