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So-called sequestration has put the lives of our service members at greater risk. don't we have an obligation not to do that? >> defense secretary said the exact same thing. happening at a time when the defendants laid now more than ever with threats from north korea and how big of a threat towards national security? >> a serious one as i mentioned it. what is happening is the funding that congress is just up to defense authorization act in unintended but its $100 billion over what obama forecasted, so it's almost the $700 trillion budget. here's the catch and nobody's talking about it. a seri...

Can get that passed but here is the problem. you can't pass that $84 billion plus up with the budget caps we have right now. >> maria: right. >> jack: they have got to be removed by the appropriations committee and its got to be done by 1 january. if we don't do it by 1 january that budget goes all the way back to 549 billion, not 640 billion. we lose almost $100 billion. that is an absurdity. we'll never rebuild military unless the congress removes the budget caps so that we can grow the budget. >> maria: we'll be watching that that's obviously very important. general always a pleasure to see...

They have not lifted the budget caps. they talk about doing it. they passed -- they about to pass defense authorization bill that is as the vice president said much larger than before but haven't figured out how to pay for it. it's hard to blame just military leadership. leland: noteworthy what you're saying, there's so many congressmen love saying this, we are going to give you more money, giving giving the more m, though, has become a sticking point. bryan, great conversation, thank you as always. we will look for your reporting in politico, liz. liz: we can all agree that golf is great for ...

With the "uss mccain" huh? yes, we will be holding them accountable. >> senator mccain making the readiness argument. that because the government has been -- at least the pentagon has been under sequestration, basically budget caps, not full spending that the pentagon wants, mccain making the case that is playing an effect here. that is part of the issue -- >> but how so? it seems like at the very -- it's a communications breakdown, there's different language used for a military trial than a civilian trial. paperwork is maybe just not being handed over. is that a financing thing? >> well, didn...

As griff just said, they have got to do it on friday if they want to be able to pass tax reform with 50 votes. the good news is the margin is a little bigger because thad cochran who has been very ill is apparently back in washington, d.c. brian: which is a pleasant surprise. they thought for sure he was out for the week. steve: rand paul is ready to vote no. because, as griff just said, he doesn't like the fact that the g.o.p. is going to spend billions in spending. he wants to get rid of $4 billion in overseas war funding that exceeds the budget caps that they all agreed to back in 2011. bri...