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This is why you are going vote. republicans and democrats want to bust the budget caps. >> senator, we have a commercial break can you stay with us for a couple of minutes more and we'll ask you another question or two on the other side of the break.
A filibuster. did you think you can at this point? >> actually, that's incorrect. they'll be a test vote at 1:00 in the morning. if 41 senators join me, if 40 senators vote not to stop debate, then the filibuster goes on. the only way a filibuster ends is when 60 people vote to shut it down. that's a real question. we're going to put everybody on the record. for many republicans, this will be difficult. because this will be republicans giving the president extraordinary power to borrow unlimited amounts of money. i haven't met a republican anywhere outside of washington who's for this deal. so...
I tend to think the right and left are both part of the problem. >> real quick, have other republicans told you they're going to sign on? meeting a 60-vote threshold is not necessarily filibustering -- >> we, actually, it is -- >> no, that's kind of the way the process works in the senate now, you have to get 60 to do everything. >> not really, it is a filibuster. it is absolutely without doubt a filibuster. i know, i'm here doing it -- >> right, but not in the physical sense -- >> a filibuster is a debate and it's shut down by getting 60 votes. this is a big deal. i don't think anybody should...
Debt ceiling when this passes. this is horrendous. every conservative in the country ought to be up in arms. call your congressman. >> the next logical question, though, is why are republicans allowing this to happen? john boehner will leave his job as speaker and paul ryan will be the new speaker tomorrow. but since he's been speaker, the debt has gone up $4.1 trillion, that doesn't sound like a party of limited government to me. >> it bothers me also. and paul ryan's going to vote for this increasing the debt, which is an unlimited increase in the debt. they're also busting the budget caps f...
This is horrendous. every conservative in the country ought to be up in arms. call your congressman. >> the next logical question, though, is why are republicans allowing this to happen? john boehner will leave his job as speaker and paul ryan will be the new speaker tomorrow. but since he's been speaker, the debt has gone up $4.1 trillion, that doesn't sound like a party of limited government to me. >> it bothers me also. and paul ryan's going to vote for this increasing the debt, which is an unlimited increase in the debt. they're also busting the budget caps for both military and domestic w...