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Do you think that's a real threat? >> that's a possible threat. you remember, we're piling this on top of the already cut taxes for high-income people, big corporations, by almost $2 trillion. so you're going to get -- we're going to get some extra juice in a very hypocritical way. they attacked obama for doing far smaller, at a time when we really needed it. but i think if you look at the budget document that the president put out today, you're going to be incensed. america is going to see what he proposed. at the same time, there are these massive spending -- and they used up as much revenue...

Budget document that the president put out today, you're going to be incensed. america is going to see what he proposed. at the same time, there are these massive spending -- and they used up as much revenue as they did on the tax cut. it cuts medicare by hundreds of billions of dollars, proposes a cut in medicare. it goes back and funds those things in obamacare that donald trump ran on campaigning against, saying they were bailouts for insurance companies. he proposes fully funding that stuff. and the infrastructure, which was supposed to be the crown bipartisan jewel, is a net cut of federa...

Departments, including the department of homeland security, which is working on this issue and mike pompeo indicated that he felt there might be meddling and we have to make sure it doesn't occur. >> why is it you think that so many republicans don't see this? they don't believe it? >> i believe it based upon the advise of experts including those in the executive branch and including the cia director and i'm confident that what they are telling the american people and telling us in congress is accurate. >> i mentioned your town hall yesterday. what did your constituents express to you? >> my c...

The budget document reflects what the president's priorities are. and i would imagine they would be uniform across the government. so you notice one of the words that was forbidden or people were told not to use is the word entitlement. cdc is not an agency that has any of the entitlement programs. that suggests to me that this is something broader within hhs. >> all right, it's fascinating read. lena sun, thank you so much, happy hanukkah, happy holidays. all right, still ahead, one of president trump's judicial nominees gets grilled during his confirmation hearing. we'll bring you that ver...

Manafort's name was mentioned, he's the former campaign chairman of the trump campaign, and they treated him like he was an intern and kind of pushed him aside, so it really ends up who it is and what the charges end up being. >> and, you know, patrick it is unsealed. we understand that it could be one or it could be multiple. but in your view, how might this be particular distraction or disruption for this white house to try to piece together its tax reform plan, to try to move on business as usual? >> well, exactly right, fred. this comes at a really terrible time for the white house. i mean...