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That doesn't mean the posturing stage is behind us. one capitol hill veteran, former fdic, sheila bair, a long-time staffer by the way who butted heads with geithner in the past, made this interesting observation to david gregory about tim geithner saying he's not the right guy for the white house to be sending in for these talks. >> do you think tim geithner, secretary geithner is the right person to lead the negotiations for the administration sf. >> i don't know. i don't think this is tim's strong suit. i think tim was given the job of treasury secretary because he understood the banking sy...

Enforcement all working following up the various leads. they continue to follow up who he was in contact with in missouri and california. but again, it appears he was a lone actor. >> jonathan dienst, our colleague at wnbc on the scene for us. coming up, that dreaded deadlock. what happens in the cales of an electoral college tie? folks, this is a real possibility this year. scarily so. plus, democratic congressman chris van hollen will be here in our studio. just 19 days left for the president to convince voters that he does have a vision and deserves a second term. oh -- and there's th...

>> that's why he wouldn't come out with you. why would he? >> bill: to make me look like an idiot. that's why. if your position is strong and your belief system is powerful, you can come on here and do pretty well. obama did pretty well the first time he was on here. >> he did. sarah said one thing, let's not look back when biden was hitting on the last eight years of the republican administration. it's exactly the reverse now. ryan is going to want to look back and biden will want to look forward. >> here is where it all hinges on. >> bill: if they get bogged down in all this minutia about th...

Nia love who's running in utah. they're trying to address it this way. interestingly enough, they'll have condi rice on stage who is pro-choice. and mike huckabee will get a rousing ovation tonight as will condi rice. i think his position on the stage as well as condi rice does speak to the split in the party. that mitt romney has tried to sort of mepd these fences between the social evangelicals and the fiscal conservatives in this party. we'll see if he's able to do a. paul ryan won't touch much on social issues. try to speak to the budget. but i think they have tried to really try to etch-a...

The ryan-akin bill was going to come up no meert what. why? it's a pretty radical splaegs and feeds into this gp we've been talking about. the last potime -- we were goin to have this conversation about forceable rape whether this happened or not. >> i will tell you an example of why this issue has had legs. this has been educational for me. what have i always said about paul ryan? he's a numbers guy, a budget guy, the reason i get into congress. this is educational to me.