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May be adding dollars to the public pay-out. dan springer breaking out a calculator from olympia, washington. >> a sprain from capitols. we're broke. >> a budget problem, a budget we cut by $10 billion in three years. >> washington governor gregoire numbers don't add up. she is adding cuts to the spending growth. but the spending went up. >> $10 million never existed. they are programs on paper that the state wanted to fund. >> washington state is far from alone. spending by all states is up 72% in ten years, climbing each and every year through the recession. thanks to the federal government....

the iowa caucuses are curious things. places where a guy named jimmy who began his journey to become president carter. places where inevitable winners like hillary clinton and howard dean lost. places where somebody could rewrite the story that this republican race has come down to mitt versus newt. somebody like ron paul. >> newt gingrich has been on both sides of a long list of issues. sometimes in the same week. >> it's wrong to go around and adopt radically different positions. because then people have to ask themselves what will you tell me next time? ron paul hit newt gingric...

Economy's so weak, is that really what you want to do? is that the solution? i say it isn't. >> brenda: jonas, what do you say. look, if you want to make the case new employees for the government should have no or small pensions you're talking about existing pensions or cutting them out. it's absurd. not the workers falt, their whole life for a pension, and a budget problem. it's not just unions and all of this stuff. they've played a roll, but they were trying to balance books and so is gm. pushing off pay to keep the current salaries low and now it's come to roost. they would have had to pay...

So there is some talk about perhaps trying to spread those cuts around a little bit more fairly in terms of doing it very carefully as opposed to just across the board cuts. so we will see if that is something they can work on over the course of the next year. shep. >> shep: we'll see. mike emmanuel, thanks very much. a week after police say they arrested four occupy protesters and used tasers on three others during clashes at the washington state capitol, thousands gathered there last night as lawmakers started a special session aimed at tackling the state's budget problem. officials say demo...

So, it is --. >>stuart: but it takes this $105 billion is reimbursed to the social security fund from the general fund. which we don't have. so that $105 billion is added to the budget, it is a budget problem, right? >>guest: yes, well, again, this was a tax cut that, yes, does increase the deficit but it increases the overall deficit. this is the general fund --. >>stuart: you add up the $46 billion they are paying out more than they take in because of the recessions fewer working, that $46 billion, and the $105 billion they are not taking in this year because the payroll tax holiday, and $10...