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>> we've already agreed on a state level to take the concessions that the for offered. everyone has to pitch in. we have a big budget problem and it needs to be fixed. but it has to be fixed not on the backs of the working people. everyone has to share in their responsibilities. >> sean: these are platitudes. 3.6 billion is a lot. you are a union guy. by the way, my father was a civil servant. do you have a problem when unions take rank and file money and spend it on political candidates and give them sweetheart deal fast the taxpayers can't afford? do you have a problem with that? >> our unio...

>> we've already agreed on a state level to take the concessions that the for offered. everyone has to pitch in. we have a big budget problem and it needs to be fixed. but it has to be fixed not on the backs of the working people. everyone has to share in their responsibilities. >> sean: these are platitudes. 3.6 billion is a lot. you are a union guy. by the way, my father was a civil servant. do you have a problem when unions take rank and file money and spend it on political candidates and give them sweetheart deal fast the taxpayers can't afford? do you have a problem with that? >> our unio...

Question but yes government worker shot that down. >> temporary basis is moving the budget problem along to the next election cycle. >> we're hoping to go back. try to do a basic calculation just how many people. >> tell the truth. tell the truth. >> our best guess at this point that there are hundreds if not -- >> here is what i'm going to do. i'm going to ask to you get off tv for a second. >> get on a phone. get to a place where we will be able to hear you telling the truth and away from that raucous crowd in the background. >> bill: talking points believe that prounion demonstrators are ma...

Question but yes government worker shot that down. >> temporary basis is moving the budget problem along to the next election cycle. >> we're hoping to go back. try to do a basic calculation just how many people. >> tell the truth. tell the truth. >> our best guess at this point that there are hundreds if not -- >> here is what i'm going to do. i'm going to ask to you get off tv for a second. >> get on a phone. get to a place where we will be able to hear you telling the truth and away from that raucous crowd in the background. >> bill: talking points believe that prounion demonstrators are ma...

From the capitol where the rally is taking place. we found this typical wisconsin middle class neighborhood and we have stumbled upon a teacher's mansion. her name is susan stern. she has been a first grade teacher here in madison for the last 17 years. i want to take you inside tonight and show you who the governor of wisconsin expects to pay more to balance the budget of the state if there is a budget problem. this is what passes for a a a grand foyer in this teacher's mansion. the formal living room, complete with an adjoining office, after a quick visit to the gourmet kitchen we sat down i...