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The fall in unemployment rates in your state and key states around the country. where do you draw the line? how can republican governors or for that matter any governor say we've done it all, and the president's done nothing but the bad stuff? is that not a laughable line as well, sir? >> no. i think a couple of things. one, the reason that seven out of the 10 states, top 10 states that have the lowest unemployment states are governed by republican governors means something different is going on. you look at the numbers of unemployment and budget problems and unfunded liabilities in places lik...

Points there have been indications that, from some other surveys that the lead now is narrowing, so let me pick up on this, if walker wins, if the recall is defeated, how big a defeat for unions and how much of an 70ive to other governor whose is seen it in indiana and ohio, how much of an incentive to go after the public workers unions? >>guest: a huge defeat for unions, clearly. what you are seeing here is what scott wacker and paul ryan and others, this word "courage," come up, they had the courage to take on tough problems and you will see more governors take on some of the more tough budg...

Watson was 89 years old. he has died. bill: full of life at 89. ♪ [singing] bill: 89. tempers flaring on the floor of the illinois state house, lawmakers looking to solve crucial budget problems by reforming state employee pension programs. republican state rep mike boss you're about to see was none too happy with the options before him. >> all the dam time come out here and i've got to try to figure out how to vote for my people. how assumed -- you should be ashamed of yourselves. here. we give power to one person. bill: mike bost went from there, he's sitting down today.

But it's staggering. we all know that it's staggering. we just went through this last summer. will we ever get a permanent solution or is this the new normal, this constant threat of crisis in the capital? >> that's an excellent question. and you forgot to mention the other part of taxmaggedon, that we will be facing a new debt limit. probably have to raise the debt limit, probably in february. that's likely to get rolled into this whole ball of wax. and the fear is that people in washington will strike a temporary deal and just roll this thing down the road six months and then six months and ...

Hindering the mission right now is the fact that pakistan had shut down some supply lines into afghanistan in recent months. secretary of state hillary clinton met with the pakistani president sadari here on the sidelines discussing important issues. they shut off the supply lines in reaction to the fact that some pakistani troops, 24 of them were killed in november. pakistan was angry about that. now they're trying to charge the ally as lot of money to bring supplies across the border. that is still being negotiated. still hasn't been resolved. there are a lot of unresolved issues on the tabl...