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Start to react to airports being closed and to national monuments and museums. >> sure. >> and national parks being closed, people are going to begin to see the chaos that is being created by the republicans in all this manufactured budget stuff. >> i got to ask you, today the house passed a bill extending federal funding to keep the government operating past march 27th. now, all three of you voted no on this. gwen moore, what about that? >> oh, i can tell you that, you know, it was not honest brokering to say that we're going to give the defense department an ability to escape the effects of ...

Anxiety the nra should feel right now. >> i want to turn to the threat of the march 1st sequester deadline with both of you. jim, congress is out of town, not back until february 25th. they'll only have four days to hammer out a deal. is anyone taking this seriously? >> i don't think many americans leave the beltway are taking it serious. and it's probably symbolic of the lack of progress on anything in washington and why those approval ratings are in the mid teens. i think it's possible that they probably punt in some way with some last-minute semi deal that sort of puts this off, maybe come ...

Or the young don't get shortchanged. it's going be tough, though. >> i'm concerned, al, forever the president's not willing to take care of the entitlement programs, to really reform those and cut back over the next generation we won't have the money to invest in the future. that is an either/or proposition. if you keep entitlements as they are moving forward, you won't have the money to invest in the future. >> long term, you're absolutely right. i think every indication, including public pronouncements is obama is willing to do that, willing to do at least some of that. willing to do means t...

Want just as well without going through combat, intense combat, over some of these legislative issues, especially the budget stuff right away. it seems to me -- >> what that sounds like, i want to get joy in the panel, that sounds what you hear from washington democrats, every time they are losing is a symbolic fight. you know who doesn't think it's a symbolic fight, the republicans don't seem to think this is a symbolic fight. the republicans don't think this is a waste of, quote, political capital, joy, the republicans seem to think it is worth going hard at the war cabinet of this war presi...

The vice presidential pick, and he does a really good job making it not about his budget but about romney's budget and showing there's not a lot of daylight between the two of them. he manages to pull that off pretty well without stumbling. i'm confident he'll be able to do that tonight, and what differences there are have been lost on the public. this is really getting into the weeds once you get into that budget stuff. i'm not worried about that part of the debate. >> speaking of wooeeeds, do you think it's going to be as weedsy as it was last time. they know this stuff three, four inches de...