Moment congressman, -- committee. i think our audience wants to know if infrastructure is going to pass without reconciliation, if these two bills are tied, i want to get to that in a second. first, we want to drill down on the spending. a moment ago you said $7 trillion and i said as well, looking at the reconciliation and the infrastructure package. how do you get to the 7 and $8 trillion number that the democrats want to spend? walk us through that. >> absolutely, maria. there's $4.3 trillion in direct immediate spending that falls within what was just marked up in the last two weeks amongs...