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People to the roles, how does he know that if he is not counting? how do they have any idea -- between 18-25? he doesn't want to count them, but counting it to make the budget work. in terms of the citizenship question, i heard in that clip a moment ago, the mayor from south bend, pete buttigieg, he said 11 million people. as you know, i said time and time again when i'm on fox, if not 11 million people, it's about 30 million people. it would be a million just this year. >> laura: they don't want anyone to know. >> we should know who is here. >> laura: they want more money, more representation...

People to the rolls, how does he know that if he is not counting? how do they have any idea -- between 18-25? he doesn't want to count them but counting it to make the budget work. in terms of the citizenship question, i heard in that clip a moment ago, the mayor from south bend, pete buttigieg, he said 11 million people. as you know, i said time and time again when i'm on fox, if not 11 million people, it's about 30 million people. it would be a million just this year. >> laura: they don't want anyone to know. >> we should know who is here. >> laura: they want more money, more representation,...

But my budget work took me away from that. these things are very important. what this is going to do -- i think the congress, being so political, the congress is going to look at this law. they're going to say whether the president has too much authority. i was a governor. i like executive authority. but there's a point at which if you cross you so infuriate the people you have to work with you don't get anything done. we have a deficit, we have to figure out health care, infrastructure, if all you're doing is a war and you burned every bridge you can burn, how are you going to get anything do...

What amount they want to do, democrats have been clear. frankly, this is everybody sitting in the same room to resolve this. myself, joni ernst, david perdue, months ago, put out a proposal to say we can end government shutdowns in a simple way -- congresstant leave. everybody has to -- congresstant leave. everybody has to stay in session, on the floor, to resolve differences. that's the way you get things resolved. we tried to get it done earlier this year. this is not just a partisan issue, this is a process issue that congress has to resolve. when you have differences, you don't hold the am...

Harken back to the days when there was a budget process, we haven't been able to get there. here is the consequence of that, where we are today. is that inherently problematic? the fact that way things run now is on a much shorter verizon? >> it's terrible. you can't do the kind of planning you should do. you have a greater risk of shutdowns and you can't have the budget work in the way it should with maximum participation from all members of congress. it becomes a series of hostage negotiations over and over and over again. look, the most basic duty of these lawmakers is to pass a bill to fun...