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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140630:17:02:00

This decision will still have the same coverage of vital health services as everyone else. remember, this is the same court that held on citizens united, that corporations were also people or at least what they call associations of citizens, with respect to political free speech rights during elections. so where does this latest decision leave women covered under the obamacare mandate and equally importantly, what kind of a future does it point to for the rights of american businesses. we re joined by our supersize panel, pete williams. nbc news justice correspondent. akil ammar, the constitutional law expert at yale, terry o neil, president of the national organization for women, karen finney, board member of naral and an mbs nbc contributor and robert, an msnbc contributor. pete, i ll start with you. how broadly does this decision open the door to other businesses that have religious views n don t believe they should be bound by federal law. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140630:17:08:00

Justified on religious grounds. the southern baptist convention justified slavery and later jim crow and segregation on religious grounds. we don t accept that as a society anymore and we should not accept plain out gender bigotry. withholding basic health care from women is bigotry plain and simp simple. we should not accept it. the aclu and a number of organizations laid out that history of what they view as oppression on the grounds of similar religious arguments. and the fact that maybe in the view of these organizations, those shouldn t hold water when it comes to corporations. going back to this question of corporate rights. where does this leave the court going forward? first citizens united, this case. where does it stop in terms of the reluctance to pierce the veil and hold individuals accountable and seeming willingness of this court to ascribe individual personhood rights of a positive nature to the corporations? ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140630:17:01:00

President. white people get to tune in and feel good. like for one hour it s just back to normal. so corporations are people. supreme court for the first time today ruled that profit-seeking businesses can hold religious views under federal law. can that even be protected when those laws refer to people? that s the question at issue here. it says, quote, the federal government can t substantially burden a person s exercise rev lidgion. according to the court, companies like hobby lobby and constoga wood, both owned by families with strong religious beliefs don t have to provide the coverage to their employees mandated under obama care. moments ago, white house press secretary josh earnest weighed in. today s decision jeopardizes the health of women who are employed by these companies. we will work with congress to make sure any women affected by ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140630:17:06:00

Rights. congress could change the statute to broaden the interest or the rights on either side. and what the court did say is that they really are workable work arounds and that certain, only a certain privately held corporations founded and staffed by lereligious folk could be treated more like the law treats churches and other full blown religious organizations. there are work arounds. so maybe this looms this case looms bigger in the culture wars than in the actual world. it doesn t throw a monkey wrench in the system. more like a pair of tweezers. it really is. it s a balancing test on both sides. and one question also is, of course, how much burden the exemption places on these employees. and it is actually cynics argue, people who support this ruling argue, a modest amount every month that individuals would ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20140630:17:03:00

i feel like i m doing my oral exams. the courts in the past have said corporations have some rights of people. for example, corporations can sign contracts, they can own property. this is another example. and the court went out of its way to repeatedly distress how narrow it intended its ruling to be. number one it applies only to companies that are what are called closely held. meaning owned by a family or group of friends. not publicly traded. secondly, they have to have some kind of history of forming the company with religious principles in mind. and that s certainly true of the hobby lobby and the two other companies here. thirdly, the court said this is a balancing test under the federal law. you have the company s religious beliefs, the belief that if they provided coverage for these contraceptives it would violate their religious beliefs and be the equivalent of abortion. and you have the government s interest in making sure the women who work for these companies get contrace ....

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