And they haven't described what that means. you break security and in the end that makes us all less secure rather than more so. >> james comey says privacy technology can be detrimental to public safety. what do you say to that? >> if you look at one set of issues and he brings up things like kidnappings and isil i can see where he is coming from. but our real national security problems are the threat of intellectual property. the u.s. is producing ideas these days, how to make pharmaceuticals, build software and so on and so forth. to protect those we need to protect the data. we need the se...