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Going to lose their legal status. i would like to deal with that problem. >> do you like that idea? what does that stand with regard to daca, the 700,000 that would be covered under that proposal? >> i think republicans are clearly beginning to look for a way out of their own mess. the corner they've painted themselves into. it's not just senator graham. senator gardner from colorado and senator collins from maine have called for us to reopen the federal government short of that. listen, alex, in a previous life i was a professional negotiator for labor and management. i learned a couple of th...

Will come out of hiding. i encourage him in the strongest possible terms to do just that and to own up to his job and do his job and reopen the federal government. it's not just trash piling up, alex. pretty soon people are not going to be able to get their tax refunds which a lot of people rely on -- >> food stamps. >> food stamps. we're talking 38 million people that are at risk of going hungry. we're not talking about the stitch stench of trash in parks. we're talking about people going hungry. we have seven appropriations bills that have not been passed. six of them have absolutely nothing...

Members in the senate that have actually come out and said what you just mentioned, saying look, we're not looking at this as just a wall. it's got to be a barrier of some sort including technology. are these people in his ear on a daily basis? that's a good question. i have no idea who that would be actually on his day-to-day staff. >> well, let's take a look at what we're hearing adrian, this morning from mick mulvaney, the acting chief of staff. let's listen to that. >> what do you think is going to be the biggest challenge for you as the acting chief of staff for president trump? >> oh, i ...

Substantial funding for enhanced border security all of which has been proven and data would suggest is a more effective means of border security than the wall. the wall is a nonstarter. if that's the president's sticking point this could go on another month which would have serious ramifications and unintended consequence ps for variety of things for our government to mention families missing paychecks off this thing. >> with regard to border security, all sorts of technological things, why does it have to be the physical appearance of a wall or a slatted metal fence, which really it's six an...

White house officials have arrived to discuss the president's price tag for the wall but optimism appears to be in short supply. mick mulvaney making this new prediction in an interview. >> i think this is going to drag on a lot longer. we're back to square one, $5.6 billion and they're at zero. >> let's bring in adrian, former director of strategic communications for hillary clinton's campaign, john calloway and amy tarcanen. before i get to this topic, you were listening to sam nunberg, give me a reaction to your thoughts about this, the genesis of this whole wall during the campaign for don...