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Would be the most appropriate u.s. secretary of state? >> well, i certainly hope so. look, this is an opportunity to turn the page in the relationship between cuba and the united states. we've tried the sanctions for the last 50 years and we've tried a lot of tough talk and it got us nowhere. there is an opportunity really to move forward in building diplomacy between cuba and us. and with that, freeing the prisoners. with that making a life better for the cuban people and building this trade. and we've been very successful in other places in doing this. tough talk isn't the way forward. the w...

We're building diplomacy. they're also emerging markets. there are places we want to sell goods, obviously. this is a president who, from the very beginning, because of his personality and who he is and his perspective, is very conscious of building these relationships. he's got an eye on where does he leave the country in the 21st century world order. i think also while this is very much a working trip, no doubt about that, you can't ignore the human aspect. this has been a grueling presidential campaign, getting on the road a little bit. last trip with secretary of state hillary clinton, the...