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I agree with that. >> do you support a path for citizenship on those with daca. >> we need to find a permanent solution, yes, sir. >> i hate that phrase permanent solution. do you support a path to citizenship. >> as part of the discussion and to make sure we don't continue temporary populations that continue to exist we should talk about that. i'm not here to get in front of the president or any final decisions on that particular issue but yes, i'm happy to discuss it. >> do you recall the president saying he wanted $20 billion now and he would build this wall within one year? >> i do remembe...

Determined that the department has a good idea that involves people, technology and infrastructure. fair to say in the comments and date why from the department it would just be disingenuous to say anybody is proposing a large wall? >> yes. >> bill: let's talk about the pool factor. if you learn nothing else from the amnesty of 1986 you learn if you don't address the pull factor all you've done with amnesty is invite a lot more people in waiting for the next amnesty. what has been your experience since we started talking about daca in terms of border crossings in the past few months? >> in gen...

Interdict drugs and protect our ports? >> sir, all i can tell you is walls work. we have examples of that. we have documented data and i don't know about anyone saying it's last generation technology. 2006 we had a bipartisan agreement in the secure fence act where senators obama, clinton and schumer all voted for. i disagree it is last generation, last century technology. >> parts of that wall was built and part of that -- we're talking about a wall the length of our country >> we're not. the president has made that clear. >> i'm not going to play back a lot of his campaign speeches to you ab...

The president has promised mexico would pay for it and we open an account that mexico can put a money in to pay for it. what -- i'm sure the president wouldn't make that promise if he -- and not tell the truth. what arrangements we have with mexico to pay for it. >> sir, as the secretary of homeland security what i am concerned about is getting the front line operators. >> do you know whether we have arrangements with mexico to pay for it. >> i know we have arrangements with mexico to secure our border. >> do we have arrangements for them to pay for the wall as president trump promised the ame...

U.s. side of the border you have to create a no man's land between the wall and the rio grande river. how many acres of land of american land do we have to crede to mexico to do that? >> we have to look at the terrain, accessibility and tailor the solution for each part of the border to make sure we don't have to do anything that's unnecessary whether it's additional land acquisition. >> if we don't have an agreement with mexico to pay for it and if as many say a wall is last century's technology, with that $18 billion, how many more cbp agents could you hire or tsa screeners to shorten lines ...