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Didn't have access to records or information that would have allowed us to identify these killers before they attack. >> senator paul, i know this is -- this has been a very big issue for you. [ applause ] you hear many of your colleagues are calling for increased surveillance by law enforcement. you call that hogwash. why is that hogwash? >> you know, i think marco gets it completely wrong. we are not any safer through the bulk collection of all americans' records. in fact, i think we're less safe. we get so distracted by all the information, we're not spending enough time getting specific in...

Phone records. in light of the san bernardino attack, was your vote a mistake? >> well, dana, the premise of your question is not accurate. i'm very proud to have joined with conservatives in both the senate and the house to reform how we target bad guys. and what the usa freedom act did it did two things. number one, it ended the federal government's bulk collection of phone metadata of millions of law-abiding citizens. number two in the second half that is critical. it strengthened the tools of national security and law enforcement to go after terrorists. it gave us greater tools and we are ...

I do want a wall. walls do work. you just have to speak to the folks in israel. walls work if they are properly constructed. >> i know how to build. >> i promise you the next time there is an attack on this country, the first people people$p are going to want to know is why didn't we know about it and why didn't we stop it. the answer because we didn't have access to records or information that allowed us to identify these killers before they attacked. >> i think marco gets it completely wrong here. we are not any safer through the bulk collection of all americans' records. in fact, i think we...

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Bush/mccain mantle is probably going to be the one that will take him to account on. >> rubio has to capitalize on that and talk about the bulk collection of metadata that cruz opposed. >> the past is predictive. he killed it in the debate when he was talking about foreign policy the last time. it gave him a step up. >> let's look at ben carson. people haven't been talking about him as much this week with all of the surging of trump. it says here he must dem straut a command of issues. okay. not appear overwhelmed on foreign policy. that is his achilles heel, maeve. >> yes, the whole debacle w...