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>> yeah, i do. i think the rules are different for him than anybody else. with me, they'd definitely play it back, right? i'm 56 years old. so i'm not going to preclude myself from doing anything in the future. i know this much. i love the executive branch of government, and whether it would be in if an appointed position or elected position, that's where i would be. i'm not a guy to be 1 of 100 or 1 of 435. >> not running for senate. >> not senate or the house. >> i want to ask you about one more thing, you write at the very beginning about the first years of your marriage. i felt -- former f...

Relationship with trump is like trump's relationship with putin. you're affection at to trump in an inexplicable way. here is something you're not, jared kushner. kushner didn't dump you because he didn't like you and what you did to his dad but he wanted to get a competent person a u.s. attorney out of the way to engage in dirty business in the purity of the transition. how plausible is that theory? >> listen, i think he understands, in fact i don't think, i know because he said it to me. you're one tough prosecutor, you're one tough guy. you don't look away at anything. he has said that to m...

The key to getting him to cooperate, if it ever happens, is going to be to press that button that says, roger, you are going to be talked about forever and you want it done in a way that preserves your legacy as doing what's right for you and for america. we can turn this around. that's going to be a very difficult sell for him. >> frank, he doesn't want that. let's talk about his legacy. you have to listen to this man's brand. he branded himself with richard nixon on his back. think about that for a second. he prides himself on being notorious, being part of this kind of underground, this dee...

Dinner with, the guy i went out to lunch with, the guy that i got to know over the last 17 years. >> you were right about jared kushner, who nbc news reported on friday his security clearance -- the intelligence community tried to block it. do you know what that's about? >> i don't. most of the time,vy vi have a l of great friends at the white house including the president. most of them never spoke to me about jared. >> what sort of ongoing problems could jared have if his security clearance was blocked and somebody cleared it, anyway? i -- only abbe lowell who he upgraded to, a criminal defen...

I know the guy who runs the fbi, who runs the new york office, he was a corruption investigator for me in new jersey. >> which you did a lot of. >> yes. he did a great job for me. and i think he's a guy of great integrity. so, with him leading the investigations in the southern district of new york, and a lot of the good people in southern, i'm pretty confident -- i've said it right from the beginning, thinking when i was governor, i would come on this show, that i think that the mueller investigation is not the president's biggest problem. and that the southern district of new york investigat...