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has retained on much of the republican base. more republicans will be asking themselves if this is the person they want as their nominee in 2024. taken as a whole, it was devastating in the extreme and for the congressional committee tasked with investigating the most devastating attack on the u.s. capitol in centuries, hutchinson's testimony puts their probe at a crossroads with important new questions to answer, especially about the role of white house counsel pat cipollone and what he told the ex-presind top trump officials on january 6th and in the days before and after. vice cha...

Was involved in some form of seditious conspiracy, prosecutors have to prove the agreement and in many ways we've rushed past him and assumed there was an agreement or evidence that one would be developed. cassidy hutchinson gave a piece of testimony in this rega rd that i suspect is so influential and that prosecutors have to follow up on. she talks about the fact that mark meadows, her boss, the white house chief of staff wanted to go to the willard war room to participate in a meeting there and meeting where people including mike flinn were present and if we're looking for a moment where a ...

Wrapped up in that, but here we have all of the players at the willard war room planning the fake electors' scheme and we now have a connection between them and the white house proper. if i'm an investigator or prosecutor i'm focusing on this. mark meadows' testimony is so critical in terms of what he knew because i'm just going to tell you that i am skeptical of the notion that he could have been freelansing, pleating with those folks without the president of the united states' approval. that's an assumption and it's a very big assumption and it's not a reason to prosecute a case. it's a reas...

Learned yesterday is he just relished the fact that the mob was armed and he would join them in approaching the capitol. god knows what he intended, but the fact is we learned that there could have been a massacre outside the building as well as inside the building. so they'll have to wrestle with those facts and that will be really tough for them to escape. >> charles blow, i want to show you some more cassidy hutchinson's testimony, but i first want to come to you for your reaction. there's so much, you know, i think as a.b. is playing out, there's so much more that we know for sure now. we ...

What exposure political and legal do you think the republican accomplices have today? >> it's a good question, and obviously we are continuing to learn things about how kevin mccarthy thought that this was all a very bad thing. we've seen that in his comments after the insurrection. we saw that in the leaked tapes of what he was telling his colleagues in the aftermath of that, even floating, you know, a resignation. there was, you know, people who were talking about the 25th amendment. i think this part is really important because we knew there was some discord in the trump team about this ide...