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The poll, second or third place in iowa. but talk to congressman clyburn who says black people have no idea who he is in south carolina. so i think it's -- it's -- it's -- it's a give and take. and again, depends who -- who our nominee is. by the way, i don't think bernie sanders is -- is -- i don't think any of them would be a bad general election matchup against trump. i think we see it in some of the battleground numbers. ahead of him in all these battleground. >> address the bernie question because i do think there is this perception. you could say it's led by the establishment or all of u...

This galvanized this group of hundreds of thousands of people in a way the other tragedies didn't? >> i think primarily is that they spoke out so quickly afterward. they're so eloquent. they're so not intimidated by the gun lobby or congress or the president. they are horrified by what happened. and they're angry. i think that's a part of what we are. it's that anger that you turn into action. >> they came out swinging like we did. and i think that, you know, there were a bunk ch of them. they are little kids. these are young adults. >> absolutely. they are not taking their foot off the gas si...

Media environment and all sorts of different online discussions about our election. to try to change our perception of our own politics and our own political figures. now, we have been able to see that from the outside. and in terms of that third prong of the russian effort, the part where they were targeting we, the public, there has been a lot of really good public reporting on how that last part of the russian attack played out. that's how we know about the russian spying online ads to try to influence the election. and the russian twitter bots and the russian fake facebook groups and russi...