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Aides, of people around him. i think you are right, there is a big question mark here as to, what about these incoming calls, there must have been people, like vice president mike pence who were actually in the capital at the time, in hiding as protesters and pro trump insurrectionists breached security, who are trying to reach the president as well to try to do something, to intervene. that s a great point. just a last point, to set the table here. the normal standard operating procedure, the switchboard is a real thing, a controls the communications of the president. and the vice president s summer, and wants to talk to the president urgently, it s like giving the president for the white house switchboard. it s not like you take out your iphone, and start texting some burner number the sub sea earlier. that would be the official barnacle, and it we have no reporting on that. jacqueline alemany, who s been doing great reporting on this, thank you very much. ....

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