Sort. i tend to belie that president trump wants to be interviewed by the special counsel. but his lawyers appropriately wanted to have safeguards, time limits, almost limits on subjec matter. they staked out this view of presidential power, as aggressive if not more than what nixon said to david frost. >> if it's posturing, doesn't that send a horrible message to the american public? >> my read of this is that they are negotiating. i think even the president's lawyers recognize that he cannot and should not ever be in a position to pardon himself. >> you once worked as an s