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What you re saying is that thing that put that powerful politician, that governor in jail, he s still incarcerated, you re saying this thing trump did, the evidence supports it s worse than that. to me it s worse because we re talking about national security. we re talking about basically selling the national security of the united states for a political favor for a corrupt political motive. and i really don t see anything more serious than that when you come to the issue of bribery or extortion, shakedown, whatever you want to call it. yeah, and i want to underscore what we re hearing from you is your view objectively on the issues. you ve been at the highest levels there including in the bush national security team. that s right. so, it s striking hearing that from you. i want to play a little bit of the other criticism of sondland from not sondland, of the case thus far which is some of these witnesses only have second hand knowledge. ....
Us was something unquestioned. i remember going with a key member of the bush national security team to see president clinton and he putting his arm around her, telling her not only was the intel right, but she was doing the right thing morally. it was not only a mistake, it was based on manufactured evidence. here, nobody is asking this basic question, except for our friends in moscow, what if assad didn t order this? what if this wasn t a syrian troop chemical attack? what if this was perpetrated by al qaeda affiliated oppositi oppositionis oppositionists? the consequences for going into syria are even more grave than iraq. if we go in and degrade and weaken assad to be the extent other al qaeda affiliates have, if that s what happens, and we think they re going to stop there, that s the definition of insanity. now, i ve heard people advance that scenario, i guess, that this was not actually assad who ordered this attack. maybe it was other elements of ....