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Democrats have historically not made this place look like the supreme court and those kinds of appointments. the number one test of voting. donald trump didn't win democrat in his election for presidency. he won independent. and i think what we saw with independents in november was that his comments on charlottesville, on immigration, his activities around the divisiveness went too far. i think we're going to see that again in this next election. that democrats and independents are going to reject the social war that the president and his alus have started. >> go ahead. >> this whole base stra...

Least to karl rove and the 2004 election campaign where he decided there was no need to enlarge the base of bush support. all you had to do was mobile mobilize the existing bush supporters. and that's essentially what trump did in 2016. i think there's reason to think that may not continue to work because with this move on abortion, for example 8, there's a real risk the president's supporters are going to mobilize all these women across the country to march in favor of abortion rights. >> we look at the president himself, 53% of americans disprove of the president. if we look at the 2016 elec...