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Concerned, because he saw this populism of donald trump getting in the way of america's position in the world. >> reporter: he gave you rare insight, though, into his criticism of donald trump. what did he tell you? >> one of the things he said was, that one of the hallmarks of great leadership is humility's so when donald trump said, i am my own adviser, bush thought, and this is a quote, "wow. this guy doesn't know what it means to be president." >> reporter: what was his tone when he talked to you about trump? >> i think it was restrained. the bushes are very restrained. and i also think th...

>> former president bush 43. >> thought interesting, won't last. but when trump started to rise, i think he game concerned. because he saw this populism of donald trump getting in the way of america's position in the world. >> he gave you rare insight, though into his criticism of donald trump. what did he tell you? >> one of the things he said was that one of the hallmarks of great leadership is humility. so when donald trump said i am my own adviser, bush thought, and this is a quote, wow, this guy doesn't know what it means to be president. >> what was his tone when he talked to you about t...

Blow hard and expressing concerns that he doesn't know what it means to be u.s. president. cnn special correspondent jamie gangal sat down with the book's author for an inside look at that incredibly candid conversation. >> former president bush 43 told you when trump entered the race he thought? >> he thought interesting, won't last. >> won't last? >> won't last. but when trump started to rise, i think he became concerned, because he saw this populism of donald trump getting in the way of america's position in the world. >> he gave you rare insight though into his criticism of donald trump. w...

Interview. >> former president bush told wrou when trump entered the race, he thought -- >> interesting won't last. >> won't last. >> won't last. but when trump started to rise, i think he became concerned. because he saw this populism of donald trump getting in the way of america's position in the world. >> he gave you rare insight though. into his criticism. of donald trump. what did he tell you? >> one of the things he said was that one of the hallmarks of great leadership is humility. so when donald trump said i amy o my own adviser, bush thought, and this is a quote, this guy doesn't know...

>> one of the things he said was that one of the hallmarks of great leadership is humility, so when donald trump said i am my own adviser, bush thought, and this is a quote, "wow, this guy doesn't know what it means to be president." >> what was his tone when he talked to you about trump? >> i think it was restrained. the bushes are very restrained. and i also think that they realize they have a role to play as former presidents and they have to be restrained, they have to be dignified. >> he weighed his words. >> i think he did, yes. >> president bush 41 was a bit blunter. he said that he tho...