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Collect, analyze and disseminate information about our online behavioral traits. people trying to utilize that information can take it and socially engineer very sophisticated attacks against, you know, businesses and individuals. oftentimes people connect to their business credentials, their business e-mails to social media accounts. so, you know, people with nefarious means will try to take that information and go towards the business domain to try to utilize those credentials. >> all right, let me stop you real quick there, jonathan. i would like people to know at least what on social media...

E-mail address to my family, friends as well as trump business e-mails. i used it for everything. i'm certain most people can relate. do you buy that? >> i don't that. first of all, michael cohn is a lawyer. he knows what to use official e-mail for and whatnot to use it for. this wasn't a e-mail to friends and family. this was a pay out to a porn star. there's a pretty big difference there. >> how do you think the white house will deal with this? >> if what they have done so far is a preview of what we can expect, they're going to continue dodging this issue. they've been referring questions t...

I would say watch the convenience spending. watch the shopping online. watch the budget. be a little more aware. a lot of people shopping for loans don't do their research, they spend more time researching tvs and vacations than loans. your loan is your big expense. >> okay. >> these are the things you need to pay attention to. >> be smart. thank you so much. happy new year. >> you, too. >> leland? >> great conversation, ladies. or you can go to france where french workers have won the right to ignore their business e-mails after hours. a new labor law allowing employees to disconnect from ele...

A hacker could get into the staple and steal information, valuable to them to use again people in the united states as opposed to using government servers which at least are supposed to be more secure and then you're communicating classified information, you're going from one classified computer to another. there's a lot of criticism. >> let me get to the substance of that. you're making a really good point. what was in the e-mails on that server? what change of stuff? >> all kinds of stuff. yes, there were business e-mails, certainly. there was also a lot of personal information in there, you...

Department system because they were not sent -- >> presumably, those are among the 55,000 plus turned over. >> they were not subject for months. >> every secretary of state was asked to turn over e-mails, including colin powell and condoleeza rice. >> it's a factual matter some official business e-mails were not available for requests because they weren't on the state department's list. >> we will never see them. >> some of them were. >> if they admit that. i don't doubt it's true. >> come on come on. stop this game. >> it was very interesting when you gave the first of all, joe, i have to say...