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Guys can sell that says that little girl was me. so clearly you knew she was going to raise the busing issue. were you surprised last night by his response? >> crayeah, i mean i was. it'll be up to vice president biden to explain his busing position. it still seems a position he holds today that allowed students like senator harris to integrate into public schools like berkeley. she said last night i was the little girl on that bus. well, she was not the only child on that bus and frankly that was was not the only bus enamerica. so this is not just something personal to senator harris but mill...

Against anybody els. they let go back time and time again to what they say are sterling examples of him furthering civil rights for people all across america. and when it came to that busing issue particularly, his deputy campaign manager saying, look, when it comes to that, we go back to the '70s. leaders in delaware were telling him at the time that busing was not the best way to integrate schools. they were trying to give that some context. there was also some back and forth with biden and harris about where the federal government should step in those cases. what are state rights or local r...

Prosecute the case best against the president. and i just think she's terrific at that from sort of beginning to end. she's showcased those skills, and you could -- she was far better i think than anyone else on that stage. i thought biden did okay, you know, and he doesn't stop being the front-runner from one debate. and he seemed a little nonplussed by the way she went after him on the busing issue. it's something he could certainly recover from. but it was her night, i thought. and buttigieg, he's so smart. he's very smooth. he was kind of backed in a corner on the question of the police sh...