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Actions fall anywhere within that definition? >> well, we had a vice president in 1807 who was charged with treason. there was a famous trial, and they didn't feel they had the goods to bust burr fully. the problem with the enemy aiding and abetting, don, russia is not officially right now considered an enemy of the united states. but we also know they had a cyber attack on us. so trump's got the slippery slope of legal language in his favor. but the spirit of what trump did is clearly treasonous. it's a betrayal of the united states. he threw our u.s. intelligence services, flushed them away ...

Article iii in section three of the constitution says this, treason of the united states shall consistent only in levying war against them or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. so no president has ever been charged with treason, douglas. do you believe the president's actions fall anywhere within that definition? >> well, we had a vice president in 1807 who was charged with treason. there was a famous trial, and they didn't feel they had the goods to bust burr fully. the problem with the enemy aiding and abetting, don, russia is not officially right now considered an na...