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Phone call if you could speak to him that would be great. and giuliani, who continues to claim with zero proof that russian interference to help republican donald trump was not the problem in the last election, but meddling to help the democrats was. >> it was actually real collusion. it involved the ukrainians. but the fbi did everything they could to keep this information away. >> the president's defense of giuliani has been at times strong, at times tepid. giuliani's behavior has careened into the surreal. for example, this week when he attacked eed democrats for the probe into trump's acti...

Not about working with the europeans to try to strengthen the ukrainian government but how can we facilitate rudy giuliani's effort to pressure this government to investigate the president's political opponents. that is a wholesale corruption again not just in the phone call but what the tax aided u.s. government was doing to do trump's bidding. >> barbara, ben just reminded, we haven't heard from rudy giuliani in a few days. one week ago we were talking about how he had butt dialled an nbc reporter, that said donald trump continues to try and have this tried in a court of public opinion. he i...

State department, the pentagon. everybody who'd be sitting around the table in the interagency process was witting of essentially this corruption of our ukraine policy to make it not about working with the europeans to try to strengthen the ukrainian government but how can we facilitate rudy giuliani's effort to pressure this government to investigate the president's political opponents. that is a whole sale corruption again not just in the phone call but what the tax aided u.s. government was doing to do trump's bidding. >> one week ago we were talking about how he had butt dialled an nbc rep...

>> it's the guy who works in the state department, the pentagon. everybody who'd be sitting around the table in the interagency process was witting of essentially this corruption of our ukraine policy to make it not about working with the europeans to try to strengthen the ukrainian government but how can we facilitate rudy giuliani's effort to pressure this government to investigate the president's political opponents. that is a whole sale corruption again not just in the phone call but what the tax aided u.s. government was doing to do trump's bidding. >> one week ago we were talking about h...

But simultaneous tweeted an admission trump asked for a ukrainian investigation. or butt dialled a reporter who over heard him complaining about biden and looking for cash. >> the problem is we need money. >> after two of giulianis clients, soviet born american businessmen were charged with u.s. election laws. giuliani has been in the media to defend the president less often and sources say he's been shopping for an attorney of his own. >> this stinks. >> it is impossible to imagine rudy giuliani will stay out of the spotlight because like trump he clearly enjoys attention. but this kind of at...