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Maybe the intelligence agencies, who knows, but maybe the intelligence agencies, which would be a tremendous blot on the record, if they, in fact, did that. a tremendous blot. because a thing like that should have never been written, it should never have been had, and it should never have been released. >> i'm going to go to you first, bret. what it remind me of is when my brother sends me alien conspiracy theory web site saying, we have these facts, you decide. we can't verify anything, we can't tell you of this is real or not. you decide. i'm not a journalist, i am a commentator. i'm not her...

Election. do you accept that part of the finding, and will you undo what president obama did to punish the russians for this or will you keep it in place? >> if putin likes donald trump, i consider that an asset, not a liability. >> meghan: you know, the problem with this specific new cycle is i still have legitimate concerns and questions about donald trump and rex tillerson's ties to russia. the problem is, "buzzfeed" has now turned all of this into a fake news story. it was an unsubstantiated report from an alleged am i six agent, it was all over the internet, completely salacious, and disg...

This is uncharted territory. >> also important to point out ivanka's role, she will relinquish all management authority, and she was standing there with donald trump sons, who of course will be taking over the businesses. "buzzfeed," as you just saw, under fire for publishing a document detailing unverified allegations about ties between president-elect donald trump and russia. they say they want americans to be able to make up their own minds. but does this raise questions about journalistic ethics? and mr. trump speaking out about one of his biggest campaign promises, his plan to build a bor...

During the summer of last summer, operatives were kind of pushing that that same paper around. >> i had heard rumors about this for a while, and i think a lot of other journalists i know had as well, but again, it's of substantiated reports, they couldn't be confirmed. >> i think over the summer, bret is absolutely right, journalist, as absolute actual journalists, news organizations decided there was a threshold of credibility that must be met. what i see "buzzfeed" doing is taking us on a very slippery and dangerous slope that says, and i think they said in the statement, this is where we se...

Again, russia, it's a great concern of mine and i feel like all the concerns are going at the wayside because "buzzfeed" and cnn completely blew it. >> and at the same time, rex tillerson was at his confirmation hearing. >> here's the thing, i think there is an added question, and you really brought this up, i think the american people are going to have to ask themselves when they are reading stuff on social media or getting it other places, is this coming from a journalist? or is this coming from the media in the broader sense? because i think those are two distinctive roles that we are going...